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I am all of these things – an interview with Melinda A. Smith, author, editor, songwriter

Posted on June 26, 2022November 15, 2023 by Deb Ewing

buy the book: InVerse by Melinda A. Smith
buy the book: Entangled: a collaboration across time and space

Melinda scooped me up on Twitter, where I’d been responding to poetry tweets with poetry tweets. Since then we’ve recruited each other for several projects, flexing Melly’s mad video skills here at Igneus Press, and myself guest-posting on her blog. We challenge each other in the best ways.

Melinda Smith has a PhD in neuroscience, two kids, a husband, and a dog. She’s also branded herself Iambic Beats, a powerhouse of immersive electronic music and spoken word poetry. She’s collected science-based poems for an anthology, ENTANGLED, and found a publisher for one novella while she puts the wraps on another. Mel loves drawing other artists into her projects, but she’s a versatile painter herself.

I don’t know how she does it all, so I asked her.

me: Your new book, InVERSE, is a compilation of lines from your spoken-word music albums. How did you decide you wanted to do this?

MS: I don’t necessarily consider myself the best poet. I am just at the beginning of the learning curve. Because I spent so many years as a scientist, I think I tend to tell more than show in both poetry and fiction, and this is something I’m really working on. But sometimes I have lines that really get at what it means to be human. I have certain lines that I’m proud of, that I think make a person stop and think. And I guess I just wanted to combine some of these lines in an approachable format, where it has a look and feel of going through an Iambic Beats notebook. I found this Ukrainian artist who does this wonderful line-sketch art and I think all together the effect works. Sometimes you don’t need a whole poem, but a few words to get your mind thinking, you know? I left space at the end of the book for people to write their own snippets of poetry. I’m hoping to see what everyone comes up with!

an excerpt from InVERSE by Melinda A. Smith

Music and poetry are not mutually exclusive. They are parts of the same body. The facts of this world, the truths, are bones and muscles. I say poetry and music give us the eyes and ears.
– melinda a. smith

me: How did the spoken-word album project begin?

MS: Here’s the thing. Music and poetry are not mutually exclusive. They are parts of the same body. The facts of this world, the truths, are bones and muscles. I say poetry and music give us the eyes and ears. A piece of music has verses or movements and a bridge where poetry has stanzas or sections and often a defined “turn.” I started to hear these elements as one when I read poetry that I loved. I started playing with electronic music and creating it around lines of poetry and the project took off. I use recordings of myself or others reading poetry and I combine them with original music.

But I am, by training, a scientist. I still find wonder in the science behind all the ethereal. So I often include scientific themes or even snippets of readings or lectures in my music so that the listener hears several aspects of any topic. For example, my forthcoming release NeurOnFire is all themed around the mind. Songs cover anything from memory or our perception of dreams and time to weightier subjects like empathy, depression, and self-harm. Scientific readings are layered in with poetry and music, along with real words from people around the world discussing what depression feels like to them. Overall, I believe my Iambic Beats project is meant to welcome all forms of expression and to show everyone that we are all part of the same race. We all have feelings; we all wonder about the universe; we all deserve a voice.

me: But you also sing & write music…?

MS: Yes! I do a lot of things and I’ve gotten good at them. I say this not to sound egotistical but because I think we ALL do a lot of things but have become constrained by far too few labels and boxes. If you’ll allow a brief (or maybe not) tangent… Labels are useful. They do important things. “I am a medical doctor” tells us that this person has the requisite training to care for certain physical needs. “I am ____’s mother” demonstrates legal and social authority to pick the child up from school, etc. But what happens when we define people by those labels? That doctor goes home at night and maybe paints or plays mah jongg. Maybe they are also a world class cellist. Don’t even get me started on how we label moms who are (gasp) whole people apart from their maternal roles. Taking this further into a more complicated territory: “I am autistic.” We know that medical/behavioral diagnoses can be validating and critical for obtaining any needed services/medications. But as we know, labels like this can be detrimental. This is why we are now supposed to say “a person with autism” rather than “an autistic person.” Now to my actual point.

I am not an artist, or a singer, or a writer, or a poet, or a mother, or a scientist. I am all of these things. I am a whole person. I have a white belt in karate (and yes I am proud of this because it shows I am at the beginning of something). I began learning digital art. I produce electronic music. I get labeled “mom” all the time. And I want to yell, “hey, I’m a person aside from making two kids.” But we all do this. Isn’t a writer also a reader by nature? Isn’t an artist also someone who takes in art? Isn’t a mother/father also a child? I believe we’ve been taught the lie of breadth versus depth: Be an expert at something. Don’t show people your failures. Be the most and the best. In reality our breadth strengthens our depths. I believe being a poet made me a better scientist and vice versa. “Bad” at art? Do more art and be “bad” at it. It will inform your writing. And besides, it will feel good to do.

me: Do you have any other poetry projects in the works?

MS: I write a lot of poetry, mostly short twitter pieces. I also write longer pieces to work through difficult emotions or life phases. I will likely publish something in the future, but I don’t yet know what that will look like.

As for Iambic Beats, look for my latest release July 25, 2022, NeurOnFire. Through the end of August, all proceeds of InVERSE and any of my other merch or music will go to The Jed Foundation, a non-profit org dedicated to mental health and suicide prevention in young adults.

Further Exploration:

Entangled: a collaboration across time and space is Melinda’s brain-baby, an anthology of science-based poetry by 10 poets from across the globe. Buy the book here at Igneus Press: Entangled.

Ellipsis Imprints is another fine Small Press hailing from Durham, England, established in 2020. Have a look at their titles here, including SUM by Melinda A. Smith. Read more about publishing with them here.

Bandcamp is the place to find aural and visual creations by Iambic Beats, aka Melinda A. Smith. InVERSE is available elsewhere on the internet, but if you buy it here on Bandcamp Friday, the website gives all proceeds to the artist. Through the end of August, Iambic Beats will donate all proceeds to The Jed Foundation, a non-profit org dedicated to mental health and suicide prevention in young adults.

Iambic Beats is the locus for Melinda’s spoken word/electronica production. Go get lost; you’ll be alright.

Hear more on Soundcloud, including MC Mel (born to Raise Hell) in one of my favorite tracks: Dream Dopamine on All Channels

All Things Melinda are here: https://www.sciencegeekmel.com/ where Melinda blogs about science, fiction, poetry, music, and her upcoming books. Feel the polymathy!

Iambic Beats covers feature art by Sionann Mastromonico, a talented artist based in Quebec, Canada.

The artwork of InVERSE was provided by Linework Stock, based in Ukraine.

Coming Into Balance is a blog created by an autistic mother to an autistic child.

we will be enchanted as you escape on wings

Science Communication Through Poetry – a guide by Sam Illingworth

Posted on May 10, 2022May 10, 2022 by Deb Ewing

by debora Ewing

“Poetry has the capacity to hold a mirror to science, capturing its reflection warts and all.”
Sam Illingworth

Dr. Sam Illingworth’s intent is to foster communication both to and with non-scientific audiences by making science and poetry feel familiar. The end result – Science Communication Through Poetry – is brilliance.

Sam is an educator, researcher, poet and a scientist, in no particular order (I think.) He comes with a laundry list of qualifications: Associate Professor in Academic Practice at Edinburgh Napier University; internationally-recognised expertise in interdisciplinary studies; he earned a scholarship from the Daiwa Anglo-Japanese Foundation regarding the relationship between science and theatre in Japan; he is the founder of Consilience Science-based Poetry Journal and its sister site, ConciliARTe; he’s written several books and a blog, https://www.samillingworth.com/.

Sam uses Oxford commas. I love that about him.

“…who exactly is Sam Illingworth to be telling me how to use poetry to help communicate science?“

Like an educator, Sam outlines How to Use This Book – he intends it to be functional from the outset, not merely a monologue. I’m telling you as a reader that it’s a delineated guide for teaching poetry as science communication, either to a class or to yourself. You will learn about yourself while reading this book. That’s intentional.

He wants the book to be a roadmap.

“…is the best way to diversify science and stop it from ostracizing, excluding, and alienating to use a medium which is perceived by many to be similarly ostracizing, excluding, and alienating?”

People often encounter a specific type of poetry while in school, which they did not enjoy, either school or poetry. They were turned off from poetry before discovering its diversity. It’s the same with science. Limited exposure leads to exclusion.

Sam gives us new tools in the form of terminology to help build that bridge from science to poetry:

Inward-facing (academic papers, conferences) and outward-facing (policy documents, science festivals, collaborative workshops) dialogue between scientists and non-scientists.

Interrogate to define the relationship of poetry upon science.

He coins the acronym RAW Poetry: Read, Analyze, and Write science poetry.

“Individually, science and poetry both present a set of complementary methods that together can help us to better comprehend the world and our place in it, while also diversifying knowledge and understanding.”

One of the most important tools Sam gives us is this: Actively target the incubation period, the part of problem-solving during which your task marinates in the subconscious.

It’s common practice to step away from a difficult problem, to allow your subconscious to work while you focus elsewhere. Illingworth suggests, rather than passively letting a problem rest, writing a poem about it. Examine it from a different perspective but don’t let it rest. Let it speak to you with other words.

My poetry mentor Peter Kidd gave me haiku as a remedy against insomnia. “When you find yourself awake,” he told me, “Write a haiku and lie back down.” I did, sometimes as many as three times a night. I didn’t try to force a topic on the insomnia haikus, but sometimes one would manifest. Eventually the exercise became Pavlovian, in that my brain would know it could now rest and wait for the next time to wake up and craft a poem. I was able to sleep.

Sam begins with a very functional process: simply read the poem, in your head and then aloud, and find out how it feels. Don’t worry about what it means. What are the differences in the poem internally and externally?

“When you read a poem, you do so while simultaneously bringing all of your own lived experiences, knowledge, and identity to your interpretation, or analysis, of the poem.”

This book interrogates the reader, or implores the reader to interrogate herself. The order of his questions is interesting:
1. What do you think this poem is about?
2. How does the poem make you feel?
3. Do you like the poem?

“Is there something that you are bringing to the poem…” And then he gives context, and asks whether the context changes our impressions.

Questioning ourselves is the best way to start a dialogue with others.

It’s not until Chapter 3 that Sam helps us define a poem – an educational technique like teaching vowel sounds before the written alphabet of a non-native language. I think it helps disassemble preconceptions that might get in the way of our understanding something completely new.

Chapter 3 also spends time on techniques to identify your audience where you are in your process. I think we all need this tool. The author points out, wisely, that your audience is unlikely to remain consistent. Take that any way you like, but see the truth of it.

Sam uses terms like poetic experiments; I like this one. He chooses to introduce the formal poetic form ‘nonet’ which may have origins in music, thus crossing another boundary. This book is all about crossing boundaries – no, integrating disciplines. I was immediately inspired to try writing a nonet.

graphic depiction of the poetry form Nonet.

Each chapter suggests further reading to help enhance your understanding of what you’ve just done.

“…it is important to make the following distinction between a research method and a research methodology: a method is the research tool (e.g. interview, questionnaire, observation) that is used by a researcher, and a methodology is the justification for using this method.”

Hey, people who like finite parameters: you’re gonna LOVE chapter 4.

The author applies conventional, directed, and summative approaches to analyzing patterns of meaning in data – in this case, the data is poetry.

“Poetry offers a way for multiple audiences to engage with scientific topics, and to establish their own common language in the process…”

Poetry can absolutely be analyzed as a data set to answer a research question using very specific methods, even accounting for words used in unique ways that might not be appropriate for the study. Sam recommends keeping a record of any poems removed or “cleaned” from the data set, and your rationale behind your decision. He explains why you need to be able to verify your findings, as science does.

Then he asks you to use what you’ve learned so far to examine your data: Read some poetry. Code some poetry. Check the auditing trail you’ve created through the process.

If we weren’t having enough utterly geeked-out fun yet, Chapter 5 addresses Poetic Transcription, or “found poetry” in scientific data. Again, Sam gives you clear steps to do this for yourself.

Don’t be Led by Aesthetics: The second core principle reminds us of the transcribed poem’s purpose: The poem should help clarify science’s story, rather than show off poetic skills.

In fact, the elements of this chapter may be surprising to the author, poet, or writer who’s not used to being a scientist. They make sense to those of us who believe art exists “out there” and it’s our job to convey it to others through language, aural or visual – through us.

This is where Sam says: Allow the poem to develop. We already do, right? It’s the hardest part of creating.

“Writing and sharing poetry can lead to an outpouring of (often unexpected) emotions, and so you need to make sure that you have a set of contingencies to deal with this.”

Chapter 6 focuses on poetry workshops, but this data could be easily extrapolated to any sort of workshop. Sam Illingworth reinforces the importance of ethical actions. He identifies the risks of emotional distress and safeguarding information, based on his experience of running science-based poetry workshops.

The author gives very detailed points on creating and running a workshop from not only the cerebral and ethical perspectives, but the physical: talking to venue owners about logistics; finding representatives from the community to ensure inclusiveness; attending to dietary requirements. Compensation. He again asks you to self-reflect: What is your role?

“Academia has a nasty habit of sorting people into well-constrained silos, which is in part to blame for the lack of diversity that we often encounter in science and scientific research more broadly.”

Sam identifies four personality types who may be interested in his book, and how they might best approach it: Scientist, Science communication practitioner, Science communication researcher, poet.

I am a poet. I’m immediately drawn to the two chapters he suggests I skip: 4 and 5.

Throughout the book there’s a recurrent impression on the future, on evolution, on legacy. I love this acknowledgement of both science and poetry as processes; it’s a theme throughout my own work and studies.

Science Communication Through Poetry reinforces the necessity of humility and feedback as a good means to that end. Not all feedback is positive; not all is applied, but even what isn’t applicable is still useful.

I recommend this book to anyone: scientists who want to become poets, teachers who want to impress curiosity upon their students, songwriters, poets and scientists alike who want to become better at what they do.

Poetry is for you. Poetry lives and breathes through all our lives. Like sparkling insect wings, like sunflowers on the side of a desert highway, it just takes a little attunement to recognize it wherever you are.

“Poetry, like science, should be for everyone”
– Sam illingworth

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Science Communication Through Poetry – a guide by Sam Illingworth

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